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you heard that republican congressman call president obama a liar. is he right? >> no. and that is absolutely outrageous, carol. and i think that is what is leading to this kind of protracted and ugly fight, which is exactly what the american people did not want coming out of this election. they wanted their leaders to work together and on something as important as benghazi, i think that every party leader needs to understand that they should dial it down a notch and really feg out what happened here. we're talking about the deaths of four americans. we're talking about an ten intelligence community that is under fire. that should be important to both parties. and ei agree with ron, we need o figure out what the cia knew, what general petraeus knew. it also goes to susan rice, ambassador rice and what she said, which came directly from the talking points that the intelligence community put together for her. so we all need to step back and really work together to figure out what happened here. >> the strange thing, if general petraeus is to blame when he was cia director
you heard that republican congressman call president obama a liar. is he right? >> no. and that is absolutely outrageous, carol. and i think that is what is leading to this kind of protracted and ugly fight, which is exactly what the american people did not want coming out of this election. they wanted their leaders to work together and on something as important as benghazi, i think that every party leader needs to understand that they should dial it down a notch and really feg out what...
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. >>> general petraeus on capitol hill right now. the first time we've seen him since he resigned over an affair. will he put those questions to rest about benghazi? >>> president obama welcomes congressional leaders to the white house this morning. same people, same ideas on the table. is there a new willingness, though, to compromise? >>> a tragedy in texas. a freight train crashes into a parade float carrying veterans. the question is, what went wrong? >>> former director of the budget office, peter orszag will join us, jeff sessions is with us, actress jada pinkett smith will join us and kelly reilly from the movie "flight." "starting point" begins right now. welcome back, everybody. our team this morning, richard socarides is with us. economics editor at the economist. will cain is a columnist at the blaze.com. john berman is with us, helping us out with news. christine romans is sticking around, helping us out with business. fiscal cliff, 46 days and counting, we'll fall off the fiscal cliff. although some people have talked ab
. >>> general petraeus on capitol hill right now. the first time we've seen him since he resigned over an affair. will he put those questions to rest about benghazi? >>> president obama welcomes congressional leaders to the white house this morning. same people, same ideas on the table. is there a new willingness, though, to compromise? >>> a tragedy in texas. a freight train crashes into a parade float carrying veterans. the question is, what went wrong? >>>...
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. >> all right, ben. in jerusalem this morning. thanks. >>> coming up later, soledad will be speaking to israel's deputy foreign minister. that's in our 7:00 hour. >>> here at home, president obama will have the four top leaders of congress over to the white house today to begin talks on avoiding the fiscal cliff, which could plunge the u.s. economy back into a recession. both side say there is room for compromise, but at the same time, it appears democrats and republicans may have dug in on their long-held positions concerning tax hikes and spending cuts. jill doherty is in our washington bureau. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> jill, both sides have said they are optimistic about a deal here. they're also not budging on some key issues. >> yeah, i mean, there is some room around the edges, but essentially, and this is the the opening gambit, of course. they're both talking about taxes. the president saying -- and revenue. the president saying that he wants more revenue from the wealthiest americans and the republicans and
. >> all right, ben. in jerusalem this morning. thanks. >>> coming up later, soledad will be speaking to israel's deputy foreign minister. that's in our 7:00 hour. >>> here at home, president obama will have the four top leaders of congress over to the white house today to begin talks on avoiding the fiscal cliff, which could plunge the u.s. economy back into a recession. both side say there is room for compromise, but at the same time, it appears democrats and...
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is he right or wrong? let's bring back a political correspondent that is indeed epic. >> michael you and i might disagree. susan rice on the talk shows after the attacks originally seemed to be saying that it was a video that started this, just like the protests in egypt and i didn't believe her at the time to be honest. i thought that they were trying to say this is not a terrorist attack we didn't do anything wrong, there was no negligence here. do you disagree with that? >> i don't think it's a question of disagree be or agreeing, actually cenk. i think what happened was exactly the same information according to every source i've read was that the congress, people like lindsey graham, john mccain were privy to the exact information. they put their u.s. ambassador out there to answer the questions. that was the company line. at the beginning of any turmoil the first reports out of anything are usually incorrect. those are the kinds of things that change over time once you know more. this was the first re
is he right or wrong? let's bring back a political correspondent that is indeed epic. >> michael you and i might disagree. susan rice on the talk shows after the attacks originally seemed to be saying that it was a video that started this, just like the protests in egypt and i didn't believe her at the time to be honest. i thought that they were trying to say this is not a terrorist attack we didn't do anything wrong, there was no negligence here. do you disagree with that? >> i...
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coming right back with lou dobbs, is the stock market over because of president obama's reelection? dobbs is next ♪ buy 5-hour energy pink lemonade and ♪ ♪ you can help others along the way. ♪ ♪ a portion of every bottle that they sell goes to fight ♪ ♪ breast cancer and i think that's swell. ♪ ♪ the more you take, the more they'll pay, ♪ ♪ so make them write a big check today. ♪ ♪ and if you're feeling a little slow, ♪ ♪ then 5-hour energy will help you go. ♪ ♪ so buy a bottle of pink lemonade and ♪ ♪ you can help fight breast cancer today. ♪ >> bill: back of the book tonight, yesterday business leaders met with president obama. among those were the ceo of general electric, big obama guy, who as you may know, somehow figured out how ge could pay no income tax in 2010. nothing! lou dobbs. this is a sweet deal, isn't it? the president want to go raise taxes on you and me, particularly you and me. i think we were mentioned at the press conference yesterday. all right. and corporations in general, and then he invites immelt, who didn't pay any ta
coming right back with lou dobbs, is the stock market over because of president obama's reelection? dobbs is next ♪ buy 5-hour energy pink lemonade and ♪ ♪ you can help others along the way. ♪ ♪ a portion of every bottle that they sell goes to fight ♪ ♪ breast cancer and i think that's swell. ♪ ♪ the more you take, the more they'll pay, ♪ ♪ so make them write a big check today. ♪ ♪ and if you're feeling a little slow, ♪ ♪ then 5-hour energy will help you go. ♪...
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coming right back with lou dobbs, is the stock market over because of president obama's reelection? dobbs is next >> bill: back of the book tonight, yesterday business leaders met with president obama. among those were the ceo of general electric, big obama guy, who as you may know, somehow figured out how ge could pay no income tax in 2010. nothing! lou dobbs. this is a sweet deal, isn't it? the president want to go raise taxes on you and me, particularly you and me. i think we were mentioned at the press conference yesterday. all right. and corporations in general, and then he invites immelt, who didn't pay any taxes. >> it doesn't seem right, but i'll forego the thrill of being in the meeting with him. it's amazing. immelt gets a pass. they've had one meeting and a jobs council which explains our high unemployment rate. >> bill: we should explain to the audience which was a job council and immelt is the president of it and they had one meeting this year. in that meeting, i think the president was there for like ten seconds and left. >> no one can figure out what they do. and imme
coming right back with lou dobbs, is the stock market over because of president obama's reelection? dobbs is next >> bill: back of the book tonight, yesterday business leaders met with president obama. among those were the ceo of general electric, big obama guy, who as you may know, somehow figured out how ge could pay no income tax in 2010. nothing! lou dobbs. this is a sweet deal, isn't it? the president want to go raise taxes on you and me, particularly you and me. i think we were...
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coming right back with lou dobbs, is the stock market over because of president obama's reelection? dobbs is next so you say men are superior drivers? yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and my daughter loves the santa. oh, ah sir. that is a customer. let's not tell mom. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. o >> bill: back of the book tonight, yesterday business leaders met with president obama. among those were the ceo of general electric, big obama guy, who as you may know, somehow figured out how ge could pay no income tax in 2010. nothing! lou dobbs. this is a sweet deal, isn't it? the president want to go raise taxes on you and me, particularly you and me. i think we were mentioned at the press conference yesterday. all right. and corporations in general, and then he invites immelt, who didn't pay any taxes. >> it doesn't seem right, but i'll fore
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obama administration. or push towards renewables. for the call appreciate it no it's not just propaganda the best of my knowledge it was an actual scientific study we are awash in natural gas right now because of fracking if fracking doesn't stop we will continue to have very very high levels of natural gas and what they're finding is that they can use very similar techniques to fracking or or identical techniques to fracking to bust up and pull out or oil as well it's a heavier oils like the oil that is going to be coming down that pipeline shale oil coming down the pipeline from canada if that's the case but the problem is making us energy independent doesn't mean that it's making its carbon independent these are all carbon fossil fuels fossil based carbon based fossil fuels bad for global warming bad for the environment we have to we have to move to a renewable form of energy james in philly james thanks for calling thanks for watching the program what's on your mind then. no you don't what's up. did make a big issue of but you kn
obama administration. or push towards renewables. for the call appreciate it no it's not just propaganda the best of my knowledge it was an actual scientific study we are awash in natural gas right now because of fracking if fracking doesn't stop we will continue to have very very high levels of natural gas and what they're finding is that they can use very similar techniques to fracking or or identical techniques to fracking to bust up and pull out or oil as well it's a heavier oils like the...
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. >> i know, general petraeus is a wrecking crew right now. no one has done this much damage behind closed doors since ron jeremy and the question whether president obama was incompetent or hiding something and now we know, he's incompetent on hiding something. and we know that susan rice on talk shows was a big serving of baloney risotto. >> they protected the president by department the justice saying we didn't think it was important enough or a risk. >> they're covering it up because of the fact there was a the election. they didn't want a scandal break and they got a big ole bottle of liquid paper and, malfeasance. >> dana, grassley, what's next, why the names in those hearings. and this will go on for a while. investigations like this take a little bit of time. and clapper, dni and morelle the acting director say we don't know, we don't know. there's a simple way to find out how the talking points got changed. first reported, as i recall, by steven hayes in the weekly standard several weeks like four weeks after, when the end of september
. >> i know, general petraeus is a wrecking crew right now. no one has done this much damage behind closed doors since ron jeremy and the question whether president obama was incompetent or hiding something and now we know, he's incompetent on hiding something. and we know that susan rice on talk shows was a big serving of baloney risotto. >> they protected the president by department the justice saying we didn't think it was important enough or a risk. >> they're covering it...
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we're going to tell you what president obama is doing about it right now. plus, a look at the likely consequences of an all-out ground war in gaza. they are very disturbing. i don't spend money on gasoline. i am probably going to the gas station about once a month. last time i was at a gas station was about...i would say... two months ago. i very rarely put gas in my chevy volt. i go to the gas station such a small amount that i forget how to put gas in my car. [ male announcer ] and it's not just these owners giving the volt high praise. volt received the j.d. power and associates appeal award two years in a row. ♪ bp has paid overthe people of bp twenty-threeitment to the gulf. billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. >>> viol
we're going to tell you what president obama is doing about it right now. plus, a look at the likely consequences of an all-out ground war in gaza. they are very disturbing. i don't spend money on gasoline. i am probably going to the gas station about once a month. last time i was at a gas station was about...i would say... two months ago. i very rarely put gas in my chevy volt. i go to the gas station such a small amount that i forget how to put gas in my car. [ male announcer ] and it's not...
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right? president obama won wisconsin with more than 205,000 votes. that's a lot of people to suppress in order to make a sure romney absolutely would win type situation. don't you think? one of the most outrageous post-election comments about minority voters came from the chairman of the state of maine. their republican party up there. charlie webster, he questioned the mere presence of african-american voters at the polls. >> in some parts of the state, for example, in some parts of rural maine, there were dozens, dozens of black people who came in and voted election day. everybody has a right to vote, but nobody in town knows anybody who's black. how did that happen? we don't know. we're going to find out. >> webster tried to explain himself to talking points memo. "when you see a lot of black people, a lot of people who are black like six or eight or ten people you think, wow, where do they live? that was my point. there's nothing about me that would be discriminatory. i know black people. i play basketball every sunday with a black guy." are you
right? president obama won wisconsin with more than 205,000 votes. that's a lot of people to suppress in order to make a sure romney absolutely would win type situation. don't you think? one of the most outrageous post-election comments about minority voters came from the chairman of the state of maine. their republican party up there. charlie webster, he questioned the mere presence of african-american voters at the polls. >> in some parts of the state, for example, in some parts of...
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what you see so much is the right trying to raise the political price for obama in this, when there's really no there there. we saw some of that with john mccain who has been trying to get to the bottom of benghazi. it's been so important for him, and yet, he skipped the classified hearing about this. why did he skip it? because his office said that he had a previously scheduled engagement. what was that? a press conference where he dissing the president and get answers. really? >> let's put mccain in perspective here, because he's the point man on capitol hill and really insinuating that there's something, you know not on the up and up going on here with the white house. john mccain is acting out of sour grapes here. that defines his career. think back a decade, but john mccain was ever democrat's favorite republican. why? he ran against george w. bush and he lost, and he didn't take the loss well. when george w. bush made president, john mccain didn't miss a single opportunity to stick it to the bush administration. hard to believe now john mccain in 2001 voted against the bush tax
what you see so much is the right trying to raise the political price for obama in this, when there's really no there there. we saw some of that with john mccain who has been trying to get to the bottom of benghazi. it's been so important for him, and yet, he skipped the classified hearing about this. why did he skip it? because his office said that he had a previously scheduled engagement. what was that? a press conference where he dissing the president and get answers. really? >> let's...
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right? he believed some conservative thing that president obama never used the word terror when he described this attack. when, in fact, the president had. it led to that horrible fact checking moment, live fact checking in the debate. is john mccain, and these guys, dana warbaucher, gene schmidt, trying to make it into a political scandal, are they making the same mistake, they're pursuing a narrative circulating on the right but isn't based in fact? >> i'd add darrell issa on that. he held the hearings on benghazi a month before the election and bungled them. he released documents without even checking with anyone. and the bottom line here is there are legitimate questions about the benghazi attack and a lot of information we haven't gotten but that's all become secondary to the sort of political fight between the republicans in congress who want to assert that they still have the control of the foreign policy issue, and they want to assert that obama's weak on foreign policy though the el
right? he believed some conservative thing that president obama never used the word terror when he described this attack. when, in fact, the president had. it led to that horrible fact checking moment, live fact checking in the debate. is john mccain, and these guys, dana warbaucher, gene schmidt, trying to make it into a political scandal, are they making the same mistake, they're pursuing a narrative circulating on the right but isn't based in fact? >> i'd add darrell issa on that. he...
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. >>> developing now from the white house president obama and congressional leaders right now meeting behind closed doors for negotiations on the so-called fiscal cliff, something that both sides want to avoid but the big question, how much are they willing to give? here's what the president said within the last hour just before the bargaining began. >> our challenge is to make sure that, you know, we are able to cooperate together, work together, find some common ground, make some tough compromises, build some consensus to do the people's business and what the folks are looking for and i think all of us agree on this is action. >> nbc's kristen welker is live at the white house. give us a brief on the expectations going in -- open minded or closed minded from both sides? >> reporter: well, i think both sides are definitely open minded but that is not to say there aren't huge hurdles that they have to get over in order to come to some sort of deal to avoid the fiscal cliff which of course by all accounts if they cannot do that it could lead the economy back into a recession. there is
. >>> developing now from the white house president obama and congressional leaders right now meeting behind closed doors for negotiations on the so-called fiscal cliff, something that both sides want to avoid but the big question, how much are they willing to give? here's what the president said within the last hour just before the bargaining began. >> our challenge is to make sure that, you know, we are able to cooperate together, work together, find some common ground, make...
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where you are sitting right now, the lapped of israel is not occupied. the land of israel belongs to the jewish state. >> say that to the 2 million palestinians that occupy it. that's not the point. >> the palestinians have their own land and instead of using it for peaceful entity of their own, they are using it to shoot my own kids. i served in the army, in many combat missions. believe me, i want peace more than anyone. i have no desire to go fight, risk myself and have my kids become orphans. not something i want to do. but faced with a very determine ed radical islamic enemy, we're not going to give in. we'll fight as much as necessary to protect the jewish state. >> but that kind of grandstanding, pompous statement, black and white clap trap doesn't necessarily ensure the long-term safety of the state of israel, something we're all interested in. the only way you achieve that is waging a battle of hearts and mind of the people of gaza and bringing on board the majority of people -- >> is that what the people of the united states -- >> we didn't bri
where you are sitting right now, the lapped of israel is not occupied. the land of israel belongs to the jewish state. >> say that to the 2 million palestinians that occupy it. that's not the point. >> the palestinians have their own land and instead of using it for peaceful entity of their own, they are using it to shoot my own kids. i served in the army, in many combat missions. believe me, i want peace more than anyone. i have no desire to go fight, risk myself and have my kids...
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president obama ran on fairness, and he's about to deliver. we're already seeing this president standing strong on the key issues that won this election. fairness. i was part of a group that met with him today at the white house. he is not backing down. he knows that making this a more fair country, protecting the middle class, is the central issue of our time he will ran on fighting for a system that works for everyone. where everyone gets a fair shot at the american dream. before our group of civic leaders met with the president, he met with the democratic and republican leaders. they know he has it the upper hand. they know he holds the cards in this fight. with the threat of the fiscal cliff looming, that -- when that happens, you're going to see a winner and a winner who won the national election. the republican leaders even the republican leaders seem to get that today. their words were such a change from what we've heard from them before. to show our serious sez, we've put revenuen ot table as long as it's accompanied by significant spe
president obama ran on fairness, and he's about to deliver. we're already seeing this president standing strong on the key issues that won this election. fairness. i was part of a group that met with him today at the white house. he is not backing down. he knows that making this a more fair country, protecting the middle class, is the central issue of our time he will ran on fighting for a system that works for everyone. where everyone gets a fair shot at the american dream. before our group of...
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you know, where you're sitting right now, the land of israel is not occupied. the land of israel belongs to the jewish state. >> say that to the palestinians. >> that's not the point. >> the palestinians have their own land and instead of using it for a peaceful entity of their own, they're using it to shoot -- >> that's not fair. >> we want peace. believe me, i want peace more than anyone. i have no desire to go out and fight and risk myself and have my kids become orphans. that's not something we want to do. but faced with a very determined radical islamic enemy that wants to wipe us out, i'll be very clear. we're going to stand strong. we're not going to give in to any radical islamists that want to kill us. we will fight as much as necessary to protect the jewish state. >> but that kind of grandstanding, pompous statement, black and white claptrap doesn't necessarily ensure the long term safety of the state of israel which is something we're all interested in. the only way you achieve that is by waging a battle of hearts and minds on the people of gaza and
you know, where you're sitting right now, the land of israel is not occupied. the land of israel belongs to the jewish state. >> say that to the palestinians. >> that's not the point. >> the palestinians have their own land and instead of using it for a peaceful entity of their own, they're using it to shoot -- >> that's not fair. >> we want peace. believe me, i want peace more than anyone. i have no desire to go out and fight and risk myself and have my kids...
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there's chuck schumer right behind him. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ woman ] my washer had a foul odor that made the whole room stink. [ woman #2 ] even my laundry started to get a funny smell. [ female announcer ] just three uses of tide washing machine cleaner will help remove odor-causing residues and leave your high-efficiency washer clean and fresh. clean laundry starts with a clean washer. >>> mitt romney failed to carry his home state of massachusetts and the romney/ryan ticket didn't win paul ryan's home state of wisconsin either. 20 presidential tickets in american history have lost both their home states, although romney and ryan are the first to reach that level of futility since 1972 when george mcgovern and sargent shriver didn't carry either of their home states, south dakota or maryland. we'll be right back. >>> i'm very proud of you, new york. you guys are tough. you bounce back. just as america always bounces back. the same is going to be true this time out. >> we're back. that was presiden
there's chuck schumer right behind him. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ woman ] my washer had a foul odor that made the whole room stink. [ woman #2 ] even my laundry started to get a funny smell. [ female announcer ] just three uses of tide washing machine cleaner will help remove odor-causing residues and leave your high-efficiency washer clean and fresh. clean laundry starts with a clean washer. >>> mitt romney failed to carry his home state of massachusetts...
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"hardball" starts right now. >>> romney says obama bought the election. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. you'd have thought that mitt romney would have stopped this crap. during the campaign he was out there selling it, that president obama was buying black votes by dumping the work requirement for welfare. remember that little sugar plum? it had it all, the accusation that minority voters could be scarfed up with a little chump change. throw them a little something and the votes would come pouring back. here he was yesterday, romney, schmoozing with his donor base about how the whole thing went wrong. it seems the president did a little wholesale purchasing, he said. he bought the minority with health care and bought the students with free student loans. great work there, mitt. you're at it again with your double barrels. one, claims that aren't true, and, two, that old dog whistle of yours. fact. people in the income bracket you mentioned have to kick in to get health care. fa
"hardball" starts right now. >>> romney says obama bought the election. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. you'd have thought that mitt romney would have stopped this crap. during the campaign he was out there selling it, that president obama was buying black votes by dumping the work requirement for welfare. remember that little sugar plum? it had it all, the accusation that...